Picking up GOP broken promise from Contract with America...
Voters thought term limits were a good idea in 1992, but when the GOP won a majority on the promise, they forgot all about their "contract" with the voter...
Gene Hart wants to make it right. Matt Lohr doesn't.
Voters thought term limits were a good idea in 1992, but when the GOP won a majority on the promise, they forgot all about their "contract" with the voter...
Gene Hart wants to make it right. Matt Lohr doesn't.
Term limits, an idea that largely faded after gaining strength in American politics in the 1990s, has been resurrected as a campaign issue in at least one Valley race.
Democrat Gene Hart, who is seeking to unseat Del. Matt Lohr, R-Broadway, is proposing delegates be limited to serving six years, or three consecutive two-year terms, in a 10-year period.
Under Hart's proposal, state senators would be limited to two consecutive four-year terms.
Hart, who has made the same pledge on his campaign Web site, explained his proposal Wednesday to a group of young professionals in Harrisonburg.
Term limits, he said, would take lawmakers' focus off getting re-elected and place it on solving problems.
Lohr said term limits may have some merit, but he does not support Hart's position. Elected officials have to face voters, he said.
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Hart won't have to worry about his term being limited the voters will limit his term on Nov. 3rd.
Outstanding idea Mr. Hart.
"If you are doing a bad job and people don't like it, they can always put someone else in [office]," said Lohr
Who are they? The funny thing is that around here the Republican Party apparatus could put a rodeo clown up, call him "Republican", and that person would get close to 50% of the vote! Docile as sheep and as easily led.
So Ms. Lohr is asking people to pray for her? I pray that her husband starts putting his family and the 26th District before his ambitions and the demands of his Republican bosses.
And Bubby's remarks illustrate why you Dems should never win any races here. Sheep that are easily led = dumbass voters who don't know better. You look down your collective nose at your neighbors because they disagree with you politically? You're no better than anyone else. You just as easily mark whomever has the big "D" next to their name, and don't try to pretend otherwise. If you have such contempt for your fellow residents, why the hell don't you take your ass somewhere else? Say, one of those inner cities where Dems always win and the living conditions just get worse and worse.
And who are you to question Lohr's commitment to his family? Did you do the same when Edwards was running after his wife was diagnosed with cancer? Bet you didn't. Using Mrs. Lohr's illness to bludgeon her husband politically is shameful and absolutely beyond the pale. You disagree with him, fine. You want Hart, OK. Make it about the issues and stop questioning his commitment to his wife.
Real nice blog you got here, Fulk. So nice to have a place where people can see what Democrats are all about. What next?
Well said Bubby and Fulk would vote for a jackass if it could run for office as long as they had a big D beside their name.
Kinda went off the deep end there didn't you anon?
"Using Mrs. Lohr's illness to bludgeon her husband politically is shameful and absolutely beyond the pale."???
He did nothing of the sort and you know it. You make an art form of being victims anon. What childishness.
You have a weak candidate, bottom line.
"He did nothing of the sort and you know it. You make an art form of being victims anon. What childishness."
The hell he didn't. He said he hoped Lohr started putting his family (i.e. his sick wife) before his "ambition", insinuating of course that he wasn't. Bubby was trying to use Mrs Lohr's illness against her husband, bottom line. Its as plain as day. Then, he mocks the fact Mrs. Lohr asked people to pray for her by saying oh, well instead he'd pray that her husband started putting his family first.
There's no victim-playing here. All I'm doing is calling that garbage out for what it is, simple as that. Hey look, Matt's running so that means he doesn't care about his sick wife! Despicable.
Lohr charging schools for "motivating" them is pretty low.
What the heck does he motivate them to do? What are county taxpayers paying him an hour?
Hey look! Victim! Victim! Don't question Matt on anything cause if you do you're being mean! Question his abusing his position to make money personally? If he wasn't a delegate nobody would ask him to speak. Can't question it cause if you do, you're being mean and picking on his wife. Matt and Co are the ones who constantly remind everyone of illness in order to insulate him from any criticism for the lousy job he does.
We've known it for years in Broadway. His nickname in school was "Pris."
You're doing what you accuse the Dems of doing.
Well, you did vote for a dead guy for Commissioner of Revenue...because he had an "R" in front of his name.
So save me the indignation sheeple.
I was shocked when Edwards stayed in the race, but when you are worth $100 million, you can buy a lot of nannys for your kids. What is the plan for Matt Lohr's kids?
And another thing, Matt is the very one who led the charge against the little kids who didn't have lunch money to keep them from getting a $1.00 meal.
I remember a lady in church standing up one Sunday and asking if we could take a special collection for some kids who had been turned away from the breakfast. Breaks my heart and pisses me off at the same time.
I wonder how much food gets thrown away every day at the same time they're telling 6 year old kids that "you can't have anything to eat cause your daddy hasn't paid this month."
Who said you can't question him on anything? I certainly didn't. And how are they using her illness to insulate him besides? And abusing his position to make money? Yeah, they're really rolling in it aren't they.
But, by all means attack the fact he gives motivational speeches to kids. I'm sure that'll gain a lot of traction. However, questioning his commitment to his family vis a vis her illness is crossing the line. Nobody mentioned it here until Bubby did. Nobody said not to say anything about him because she was sick. BUBBY is the one using it to take cheap shots, no one else.
Instead of defending him or blaming the Lohr's for it, perhaps you'd do well to drop it completely, because it doesn't reflect well on anyone using it or this blog, period. You want to question his sommitment to the district? Fair game. His family is not. Most people have enough decency to know that.
"Well, you did vote for a dead guy for Commissioner of Revenue...because he had an "R" in front of his name.
So save me the indignation sheeple."
And in 2000 folks of MO voted for Mel Carnahan for Senate, a DEMOCRAT, after he had died weeks before the election.
You display nothing but contempt for your neighbors, a trait shared amongst your fellow Dems. Not only that, but you post such garbage on the blog of the Dem chairman for all to see. Hey voters, see what the Dems REALLY think about you!
If my wife was end stage cancer and I had small children at home I know I would not be running for political office, and planning on spending the winter in Richmond. Those are my family values. He obviously does not share them. Another good reason not to vote for Lohr.
What cheap shots? You were on here going after Fulk's wife and kids on here a while back and they're not even candidates. You're sickening with your disdain for the people of the Valley. Your hero Tom Davis refers to Virginia as one part Nova and three parts Alabama. Which party is it that looks down on us out here in hick land? Maybe the one that just takes it for granted that they'll get the vote no matter what so they don't have to do anything for us out here. I don't really care about party, but I'll tell you this much, Obama showed up in the Valley, McCain sent his mom. Tells me something.
Lohr wouldn't even show up for many of his school board meetings but he would always be there when it was picture taking time. Now he wants to take money from my kids education? I've had enough!
Something that just burns my backside is they want to vote in a meals tax for schools when they have enough money to pay somebody just to talk. And the real kicker is paying somebody to talk who shouldnt even think about charging for it for schools.
You just don't know when to stop, do you? From what I understand his wife is incredibly supportive of his decision to run, and that ought to be enough for everyone else. You don't give a damn about her, or their children...all you want to do is get the man with the big D elected, and you'll smear Lohr by suggesting he's not committed to his family to do it. I'm glad Lohr doesn't share the values of a cretin that would do that.
I can tell your not from around here anon cause this aint MO. This is Broadway and we can see who is willing to put themselfs out there and who wont and no amount of lying by you will trick us anymore. Ive had enough to.
Hey look! Victim! Victim! Don't question Matt on anything cause if you do you're being mean!
There you go again. You're the one keeping this going. Why don't you answer the other questions anon? Why do you keep pouring gas on the fire? I'll tell you why, cause you want to holler Victim!
Hey, Ticked Off? Point out where I expressed disdain for Valley residents, huh?
Yah why dont you answer about needing meals tax if they can throw money at somebody who shouldn't be taking it anyway?
Hart is following Fulk's lead that will hurt him alot.
Oh I'm VERY familiar with the area, Green, which is why I know this tactic ain't gonna fly. The Valley is filled with decent, hardworking folks who probably won't take too kindly to be calling sheep simply because they vote a different way from the political minority here. I doubt they'll also appreciate attacking a candidate over his wife's illness, which is what Bubby is doing. You and Ticked can deny all you want, but its as plain as the nose on your face.
By all means though, vote for the Dems. Continue to use the family values angle against Lohr, see where it gets you.
Go BHS, Lohr shouldn't be taking money? He can't earn a living? Vote the meals tax down if you don't want it. Simple as that. I doubt Lohr is holding a gun to the school's heads telling them to hire him. The feedback I've heard on his speeches has been incredibly positive, and the kids seem to get a lot out of it. If the schools deem it a worthy expenditure, that's on THEM, not Lohr.
YOU just don't get it - it isn't about Ms. Lohr or Matt Lohr's oversized ambitions, or flawed priorities, it is about their kids. They need a their dad at home.
You don't give a damn about them, Bubby, so stop pretending that's what this is about. If Andrea Lohr and her husband decide that he should indeed seek office again, then who is anyone to say that he shouldn't? Who knows their family best, you or them?
You demean the people of the 26th district, you question Matt Lohr's commitment to his wife and kids, and you parlay her requesting that folks pray for her into a snide remark about you praying he does this or that. Your shameless partisanship jumped the shark long ago, and if your colleagues had any sense they'd tell you that these memes probably aren't a winning formula.
Boy I like how you keep trying to twist what people are saying anon. You act dumb on stuff like you dont understand what I mean. I dont care what he does for a living but he use to be a school board member and now hes a big time delegate who has control over how much money the schools get. The school money is being cut, people are losing there job, there selling magazines to help pay for stuff and always telling us how they dont have enough money and now you tell me Lohr should GET PAID from my hard earned money just to go to the school and talk??? You are the one who think we are dumb around here but we can see whats going on. Its all about you people getting our money thats what it is.
And just to set you straight, no he should not be getting paid from school money WHEN HE IS IN CHARGE OF HOW MUCH MONEY THE SCHOOLS GET!!! Talk about PAY TO PLAY!!! The schools are afraid NOT to ask him to speak!
Of course the schools are afraid not to ask Matt Lohr to speak for a fee. That is the way it should be. He won... Now they have to show him the proper respect. Purely and simply that's what winning gets. I would expect that next year after he slaughters Mr. Hart he will be asked twice as many times to speak, and his fee will be higher. Get over it, for it's how things work. Matt deserves it.
Go BHS, how are they afraid NOT to ask him to speak? He and he alone doesn't control what schools get. I guess if they don't he goes to Richmond with the sole purpose of trying to punish school districts who don't use his services?
And its called motivational speaking. If the schools deem it an OK expense, and the students get something out of it, then I guess they think its worth it. Lohr isn't forcing anything on them. I suggest if you're concerned so much you write to your district and tell them you don't want money used for that sort of thing. My guess is they spend a lot more on other things that I would question the merit of, but whatever.
This just decided my vote. Hart believes in term limits, Lohr doesn't. Lohr charges schools thousands of dollars to speak when he of all people should know what their needs are, and then his allies attack anyone who dares to question the ethics of such practice.
Term limits look pretty attractive.
I'm voting for Hart. This discussion helped me decide.
Matt Lohr goes around telling people how to be "pro life", I'm telling him (and you) that he's not being a good dad. He has "pro life" responsibilities at home and he needs to make them the priority.
This isn't the first time such questions have been asked. Republitarian has talked about it from time to time on his blog and asked the same basic thing. Why do you go all manic like it's a sin to ask, "What about the family?"
Why is that such a bad question? Why is it so off limits?
I'll tell you why, because people know that Matt Lohr is not making the family-first decision. This isn't a Republican / Democratic issue. No one, not even his wife, can excuse him from his responsibilities as a father.
Whoever anon at 5:24 is, at least your telling the truth. I dont like it much but your not putting sugar on it. I didnt think about it like that. They schools have to grease the right palm. But no he dont deserve it.
Hey, that's terrific Bubby. Please, by all means, continue to say hey, since Andrea is sick doesn't that mean Matt is a lousy husband and father for running? I want nothing more than Gene Hart surrogates-and Lowell Fulk's blog- to be associated with such contemptible garbage. I want others to see how you talk about your fellow voters and how you're using her illness to attack her husband. Perhaps local media would be interested in hearing how the blog of the Dem chair is being used to peddle that meme. Decent folks turn away from such tactics, and all you'll end up doing is generating sympathy for Lohr and having people wonder why the Dems have to resort to such trash in the first place.
Brilliant idea. Let's call the media. Local voters should hear from Mr. Lohr and why his political ambition has not distracted him from his responsibilities to nurture his young children while his wife battles for her life. He can explain how the business in Richmond requires their sacrifice and his absence.
He can also assure voters that he will serve his term if elected and is not just another effort by Rockingham Republicans to dupe the voters as a placeholder until they can rig a "special election". Because we don't like people bearing false witness around here. We'll need the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I would like to see a story done about how Lohr is taking money away from my kids school so I hope they do come here. Can you make it so I can talk to them? I got lots I want to say.
Hey, go for it...attacking him as a horrible husband and father will surely be a winning strategy. Keep it up. And congrats to JD for further showing what despicable creitins you folks really are.
Lowell Fulk, you need to clean up your blog a little lest you and the candidates you cheerlead for be tied to the garbage on here. Wonder how Gene Hart feels about his surrogates using the illness of a spouse to attack his opponent? Hmm, sounds like a good question for those who do that sort of thing.
Thanks for the material, folks!
Hey, go for it...attacking him as a horrible husband and father will surely be a winning strategy. Keep it up. And congrats to JD for further showing what despicable creitins you folks really are.
Lowell Fulk, you need to clean up your blog a little lest you and the candidates you cheerlead for be tied to the garbage on here. Wonder how Gene Hart feels about his surrogates using the illness of a spouse to attack his opponent? Hmm, sounds like a good question for those who do that sort of thing.
Thanks for the material, folks!
Hey, could you post a couple of more times? We didn't get how desperate you are with the first two repetitions.
I didn't mean to post it twice. And desperate? Sorry, but that is what Bubby is, not me. You guys are just too much, truly.
I know that if my spouse was facing a life threatening disease I would not run for Delegate. Some things mean more than getting elected.
Wait, so Mr.Lohr got paid to give pep talks or something to teachers? We don't need pep talks we need school supplies and library funding. Jared
"And congrats to JD for further showing what despicable creitins you folks really are."
Curious how you and "JD" have the same IP identifiers...
I figured as much.
since this conversation sucks anyway,
has anyone brought up john edwards yet (i'm sure there are a number of politicians who choose to run for office in the midst of great family strife, but he comes to mind in light of the current discussion).
if you haven't spoken to delegate lohr about why he's made the decisions he's made, then malevolently conjecturing is really a pretty shitty thing to do.
if you're looking for real dirt bags who don't give a flying f about family values (and as a thinking person i will stop well short of using one individual to categorize a group), i think the guy ya'll could have very easily ran for president could potentially be a better example.
INTERROGATORY: Could the anonymous poster who said that I "peddle that meme" please post a translation? I don't speak French.
Anyway, welcome to America and the Valley!
Hi Seth, I don't believe that Matt Lohr's poor judgment and blinding ambition extends to the level of say, S.C. Governor Mark Sanford's, or Nevada Senator John Ensign, or even that freak from the bayou, Louisiana Senator David Vitter. So let's not go there, OK?
Seth you won't hear Bubby mention anything about the Democrats dirty DEEDS he is a pure party hack that will get his feelings hurt on Nov. 3rd.
Bubby forgets the many Democrats that have screwed up.
How're things in Rustburg anon?
I have no idea im not in Rustburg but im doing good thanks for asking.
Toni,
What makes Lohr such a sleazy bastard is that he mentions his wife's disease in EVERY event that he speaks at. History has shown that he's not too bright but to use his dying wife to get sysmpathy votes is an all time low. Sadly, its not surprising for the Valley republicans. What ever happened to real men?
Fulk you are just mad at Lohr because he put a beating on you back in 05. Maybe you can give Hart some winning ideas.
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